Sam Bayer wrote:
Trust me, there are alternatives
Sam, i never said there is no alternative? And i never said, that you cannot successfully implement e-commerce without SAP. I only said, that it is very unlikely that you have a full integration to sap that goes beyond the basics with solutions like Hybris and Co - they all required custom coding. I know Magendo, i know Hybris and some other solutions - please listen closely what I tried to communicate before: There are different decision factors involved for people, who have choosen SAP's and Non-SAP solutions - you can not make a one to one comparision, hence you cannot simply replace WCEM - it's good that you have the choice to decide.
Sam Bayer wrote:
Evidently you don't know our solution very well at all.
Can Magendo do catalog management or does your solution do it? You did say, because 3 of 4 of your clients do not need catalog features, that's because it also applies to SAP .... somehow its like comparing apples and oranges.
Btw. With 3 different solutions, you need at 3 different kind skillsets - especially as as I remember non of the solutions share the same technology. If the client does not want to outsource it to service providers, then he needs to get more people to cover the skills => more costs.
Sam Bayer wrote:
high priced
Did we not figure out that SAP is cheaper as you estimated for a to-be case? Even can be delivered faster as you hoped s solution should be? Evidently you don't know SAP's solution and the cost factors there, you just make a assumption that SAP always = expensive. That's somehow not a academic driven nature - making assumptions without proof.
Sam Bayer wrote:
Lastly, I don't think anyone in this forum believes your 56K cost estimate to implement WCEM.
For some reason somebody even wrote this number into the official training material of SAP and customers are all aware about it. Strange that i would do this RDS instantly for 56K as fixed price 
Must be not really smart of me if you consider, that this is binding as it is a fixed price for such packaged service - as i said, this is for the full set and not just the very easy element for the order management. Btw. i can even make it run in the cloud for such price - not on-premise (customer can choose).
The problem of many people and this news is, that they try to make assumption based on seeing a small overlapping part whilst they far far bigger share is absolutely different. What happens today is, that SAP annouched for his Porsche that it gets a new set of Tires for the next season. It's not replacing the the whole car, just a new spare parts of tires. Now peole are using this news to say, i this car must get unfortunately crushed and buying the beatle car will serve his needs as well - because it is a car. The owner of the porsche will just smile at you and go away
Don't get me wrong, nobody is saying other solutions then SAPs are bad for their specific use case. I think Hybris has it's advantages and it will give us the chance to replace some specific elements, where Hybris was doing better - again, this does not mean, SAP has elements where Hybris is far far behind.